ABSOLUTE PROOF IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HHO TO INCREASE MILES PER GALLON

I did the same calculations in 2009 using an organic chemistry book as a reference and came to the same conclusion. Once I realized it would take more water by volume to generate the same energy as gasoline and figured how many Watts would be necessary I turned my HHO generator into a torch and never put it back on my car. I datalogged everything from the engine sensors and wondered why I wasn't producing enough HHO and now we know why.

@JETTXEL They use distilled water to not gum up the plates, but distilled water will not conduct electricity, so they add electrolytic substances.

Is it possible, by use of catalysts, resonance, and other methods, to increase the production of HHO gas using less energy? Many, if not all, of the HHO generators are using some type of electrolytic mixture which may make the HHO production more efficient. I am certianly no chemist, and I agree with your assessment, but it may be that there are some components that should be considered in your equations, as you are assuming absolutely pure water, which we know is typically not what is used...

Great video, but you could have done it much simpler. All this talk about the ideal gas law is unncessary, all you need to show is that you can at best break even. How much energy does it consume to dissociate one mole of water, how much energy does that yield in a combustion? Where are the losses along the way.. bam, you end up with less. I think all the numbers are more confusing than anything else. But good video.

@tnlightnin The law of conservation of energy means you can never get out more energy than you put in. The extra load on the alternator to run the HHO devive causes the engine to have to work harder, which means more fuel consumption. Because it takes more energy to make the HHO than you get from burning it, it is an energy loser.

@EnergySupply2008 Apparently fear of posted comments? We have to have approval? Does anyone know which oil company Energysupply2008 is working for? This video was a lot of trouble to create for zero gain. And biased by judging HHO alone without the benefits it provides when combined with other fuels. Nor does he consider the alternator output and drag as part of the equation. Many alternators produce far more than the vehicles require. Nothing is ever proven by leaving out facts.

A nice contribution to the Truth and Normality.Good for you!

Bravo and thank you for the video. Entropy on a self contained chassis is by commonsense an automatic failure. Even if the auto makers and oil companies are in collusion your power companies aren't and if they could produce electricity cheaper or free to lower their expense of operation they would do it to make more money off of us.

@bennett20200 No, you missed the point. The numbers show that HHO wastes energy by loading the engine and the alternator. Using that energy to create HHO is a net loss.

@roofy2k Exactly, energy cannot be produced, only changed from one form to another, but always with efficiency losses.

@crazybiker420 HHO might burn at 2000 degrees, but a couple liters/minute cannot contribute a significant amount of BTU's. Vehicles have such huge requirements. Google "energy density" The first link is Wikipedia. The table shows gaseous hydrogen has 0.01079 MJ of energy per liter. HHO is 2/3 hydrogen so it has 0.007193 MJ per liter. Gasoline has 34.2 MJ of energy per liter. So a liter of gasoline has 4,755 times more energy than HHO. Need huge quanties of HHO to make a difference.

@crazybiker420 Which is 4,470 BTU per minute The HHO provide only 5.672 BTU per minute which is only 0.1247 percent of the requirement. Plus, it takes more energy to make the HHO than it gives back to the engine, because the engine only turns 24 percent of the energy into mechanical energy and then the alternator wastes 40 to 50 percent turning mechanical energy into electrical energy and the cell itself is less than 100 percent efficient, so anyway you slice it, HHO hurts miles per gallon.

So how does hho mixed with gas react? Does that extra 2000 degrees make a difference? (2000 is a guess)

@crazybiker420 2 headlights consume about 165 watts. An HHO cell at 6.1 milliliters per minute per watt produces 1007 milliliters per minute, or just over one liter. A cubic foot of hydrogen at 60 degrees Fahrenheit, has 270 BTU. HHO is only 2/3 hydrogen so 180 BTU. Because the cell temp is about 120F the HHO expands and is more like 161 BTU per cubic foot. A CF is 28.382 liters. So a liter of HHO has 5.672 BTU. At 25 MPG at 60 MPH, we consume 2.4 gallons per hour or 268,217 BTU per hour - CONT

@crazybiker420 Yes, headlights, or anything electrical, increases fuel consumption. The battery gets drained, a 50-60 percent efficient alternator driven by a 24 percent efficient engine has to replenish that energy in the battery so more fuel is consumed.

@crazybiker420 Generally speaking, 34 percent of the heat goes to the cooling system, 36 percent out the exhaust and 6 percent to the surrounding air around the engine. Making for about 24 percent engine efficiency. But that is not the fault of the gasoline, it is just that it takes huge amounts of heat to move a vehicle at a decent speed.

@crazybiker420 Professor John Heywood of MIT is an expert in the internal combustion engine. He says that computer controlled vehicles deliver the correct amount of fuel so precisely that at least 98 percent of the gasoline is burned.

Avoided question. Gas burns at 65% efficiency? And does that go up when you add hho? Does your headlights take more gas? Because my system uses about that much power.

@crazybiker420 What question did I avoid?

Way to avoid the question. You said that in the video and in the discription and in some other comments.

@crazybiker420 To really understand why HHO is an ant fart compared to how much energy a vehicle uses, pay attention to all the math in this video. watch?v=zy1GdP4GYkM

@crazybiker420 In other words, even at 150 to 300 amps, a vehicle requiring 21 to 42 HP at 60 MPH would use MORE gasoline with HHO than without.

@crazybiker420 In the video below, ZeroFossilFuel fed 30 amps to his cell. On this tiny 3 HP engine, it reduced the run time from 11:40 to 10:49 - 51 seconds less run time on 11:40 means he increased fuel consumption with HHO by 7.28 percent. Now, that is with a 3 HP engine. At 60 MPH most vehicles require 21 to 42 HP. 7 to 14 times as much. The 30 amps could not get a gain even on a tiny 3 HP engine. On a car, it is totally impossible. watch?v=zwqisOfTw 0E

You forgot to mention so much stuff. Numbers don't prove anything. Bring actual chemistry tests and videos and let's see these "tests" you have done. I read one of your comments you said you didn't ever try! I don't have any solid proof that it works but I do have proof that it doesn't take away mpg. I can't believe I waited through this whole video to here you babble on about stuff I already knew. Answer this. How much energy does hho and gas have mixed? When the burn rate is upped from 65% to

@a1mint so how long have you worked in the oil business??